1 00:00:01,710 --> 00:00:06,090 Hidden power, secrets, cover -ups, corruption. 2 00:00:09,430 --> 00:00:11,670 You think you know the whole story? 3 00:00:12,010 --> 00:00:13,090 Think again. 4 00:00:15,150 --> 00:00:20,930 I've been governor, a Navy SEAL, a fighter. 5 00:00:21,810 --> 00:00:27,590 I've heard things that'll blow your mind. And now I think it's time you get 6 00:00:27,590 --> 00:00:28,590 whole story. 7 00:00:28,930 --> 00:00:29,930 Now. 8 00:00:30,540 --> 00:00:36,740 Jesse goes back to the future. This is the deepest, darkest state secret that 9 00:00:36,740 --> 00:00:38,700 the United States possesses. 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,640 To investigate a conspiracy that stopped the clock. 11 00:00:43,340 --> 00:00:47,220 You're talking to me here like H .G. Wells in the time machine. 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,380 Is the government using time travel as a weapon? There is at least a 70 -year 13 00:00:52,380 --> 00:00:56,980 paper trail suggesting our government has been engaged in time travel. 14 00:00:57,180 --> 00:00:59,240 Is a secret army of time travelers? 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,100 heading out and changing history. 16 00:01:01,780 --> 00:01:05,360 The whole question is, what does the government know that we don't? Jesse and 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:06,920 his team find the witnesses. 18 00:01:07,300 --> 00:01:11,000 They'd lay stark naked on it. They put a time machine to the test. 19 00:01:11,220 --> 00:01:14,740 You're at a time travel. Are you ready for that? And they track down a time 20 00:01:14,740 --> 00:01:16,300 traveler. I found Bishago. 21 00:01:16,620 --> 00:01:18,220 Who claims he has the evidence. 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:19,579 Oh, that's you. 23 00:01:19,580 --> 00:01:20,680 That proves it all. 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,160 Wow. That's you at the Gettysburg Address. Where's Lincoln? Lincoln's back 25 00:01:25,220 --> 00:01:26,420 The clock is ticking. 26 00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:30,480 And I say we do it right now. As Jesse Ventura. You up for that, Sean? 27 00:01:31,540 --> 00:01:35,000 Untangles. I want to see where someone leaves somewhere and shows up somewhere 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,980 else. The Time Travel Conspiracy. 29 00:01:38,980 --> 00:01:40,420 I'm Jesse Ventura. 30 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:42,580 And this is Conspiracy Theory. 31 00:01:49,820 --> 00:01:53,660 Jesse Ventura's investigation has led him to the most bizarre situation yet. 32 00:01:54,980 --> 00:01:57,260 In a room with a time machine. 33 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,760 And a man who says he knows how to use it. 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,920 So you can take us back in time. 35 00:02:03,140 --> 00:02:04,140 Yep. 36 00:02:04,780 --> 00:02:06,120 Jesse is ready for anything. 37 00:02:06,780 --> 00:02:08,000 I'll only go to the future. 38 00:02:08,539 --> 00:02:09,800 Well, you're going to go in the past. 39 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,240 But not this. 40 00:02:12,660 --> 00:02:14,720 I'll tell you what, this thing is dangerous. 41 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,260 Dangerous. I would say it's very dangerous. 42 00:02:21,190 --> 00:02:25,650 You've got to be wondering why I'd spend a second on something as crazy 43 00:02:25,650 --> 00:02:27,070 -sounding as time travel. 44 00:02:27,430 --> 00:02:32,190 Well, maybe this really began when I was a kid, back when one of my favorite 45 00:02:32,190 --> 00:02:33,990 movies was The Time Machine. 46 00:02:34,310 --> 00:02:39,050 If that machine can do what you see it can, destroy it, George, before it 47 00:02:39,050 --> 00:02:40,050 destroys you. 48 00:02:40,930 --> 00:02:43,110 Then again, there's the sort. 49 00:02:43,790 --> 00:02:49,170 Alfred Weber is an Ivy League lawyer, a former White House advisor, a real 50 00:02:49,170 --> 00:02:50,170 insider. 51 00:02:50,670 --> 00:02:53,950 Alfred Webber, what on earth are you into now? 52 00:02:54,170 --> 00:02:58,350 You contact me and say it's imperative that I meet you and talk to you about 53 00:02:58,350 --> 00:03:04,810 what? This is the deepest, darkest state secret that the United States 54 00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:09,450 possesses. Yeah, that's one way to grab someone's attention. 55 00:03:09,690 --> 00:03:15,690 This is a technology that allows a person to go from point... 56 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:22,110 A, B, C, D, and time. Another point, E, F, Y, G, in the time -space continuum. 57 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:25,610 Wait a minute now. Wait a minute. 58 00:03:26,030 --> 00:03:27,230 Time out. Wait. 59 00:03:28,350 --> 00:03:32,950 You're talking to me here like H .G. Wells in the time machine. That's right. 60 00:03:32,950 --> 00:03:36,370 That's what you're saying to me? That's right. That the U .S. government is 61 00:03:36,370 --> 00:03:39,230 involved in time travel or a time machine? 62 00:03:39,750 --> 00:03:40,750 That's right. 63 00:03:41,450 --> 00:03:46,110 If we have the ability to do time travel, why should that be kept secret? 64 00:03:46,350 --> 00:03:51,830 The problem is, number one, that it's very dangerous, and they've hurt a lot 65 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:54,610 people doing it, and that needs to be exposed. 66 00:03:56,090 --> 00:04:01,230 So Weber says the government's been working with time travel for decades, 67 00:04:01,230 --> 00:04:03,870 thousands of people have been killed along the way. 68 00:04:04,910 --> 00:04:09,670 And they used them in the experiment, knowing that a lot of them were going to 69 00:04:09,670 --> 00:04:10,670 be killed. 70 00:04:10,810 --> 00:04:15,990 They can mind control you, they can capture you, and they can send you, and 71 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:17,170 you've just disappeared. 72 00:04:19,790 --> 00:04:23,710 Well, let me ask you this, Alfred. Why would they kill to keep this secret? 73 00:04:24,330 --> 00:04:29,710 Because dead men tell no tales. But what's the tale to be told? Right now, 74 00:04:29,710 --> 00:04:33,830 agencies that have control of this technology are two agencies. 75 00:04:34,700 --> 00:04:39,840 DARPA, the Advanced Research Project Agency, and the U .S. Central 76 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:44,080 Agency. Can they use this technology to make a weapon? 77 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:51,240 Oh, of course. And time travel has been weaponized from day one, and it's been 78 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,000 used against the United States of America. 79 00:04:54,700 --> 00:04:56,520 How? Give me an example. 80 00:04:56,740 --> 00:05:01,620 This is an example that is near and dear to your heart, I know, Governor. 81 00:05:02,060 --> 00:05:03,540 They had photographs. 82 00:05:04,620 --> 00:05:09,180 of the planes hitting the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center on September 11, 83 00:05:09,460 --> 00:05:13,820 2001. They had those photographs in 1971. 84 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,520 Well, that would be astounding. 85 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:23,840 Now, not only that, the gentleman, and I'm not going to mention names, the 86 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:29,620 gentleman who was the Pentagon liaison to this time travel program was a member 87 00:05:29,620 --> 00:05:32,160 of the president's cabinet at that time. 88 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:38,720 And he was also U .S. Secretary of Defense on September 11, 2001. 89 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,700 Well, that's Donald Rumsfeld. 90 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:48,440 And is that a conflict of interest or not? 91 00:05:48,780 --> 00:05:54,200 Yeah, it's right out of H .G. Wells, all right. Using time travel to plan wars, 92 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,040 to knock off dissidents, and for something I didn't expect. 93 00:05:58,500 --> 00:06:02,380 Right now, the American public thinks they elect the president. 94 00:06:02,940 --> 00:06:08,600 In fact, the president has been pre -identified 20 to 30 years in advance. 95 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:13,400 And each of those presidents has been informed about that and has been 96 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:19,240 And those presidential races are a mockery. What you're saying is DARPA and 97 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,920 CIA pick out our president. 98 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,060 Not only pick him out, but run the president. 99 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,900 Come on. This is sounding like one of those cheesy old sci -fi movies I like 100 00:06:30,900 --> 00:06:35,360 watch. I'm about ready to write this all off when he comes up with something 101 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,880 solid. There's a whistleblower, a U .S. chrononaut. 102 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:45,840 What is a chrononaut? A chrononaut travels in the secret time -space travel 103 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:52,700 program. He was present at the beginning as a child. He then went through 104 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:53,700 the CIA. 105 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,360 As a young man, and you find that person, and he will blow this wide open. 106 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:05,060 And we have a photograph of the chrononaut. He was time -traveled to an 107 00:07:05,060 --> 00:07:07,080 event in the past. 108 00:07:07,820 --> 00:07:13,440 So he's got a guy who traveled through time and a photograph to prove it? This 109 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,620 might be worth a look, after all. 110 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,960 Okay, I'm buying it, but you're intriguing me. I'll talk to my people, 111 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,140 see what we can learn about this and see if there's any truth to this. 112 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:29,510 Oh, yeah. If there's a person that can make this a game changer, which I think 113 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:32,170 it is, it's yourself, Governor. 114 00:07:33,370 --> 00:07:35,050 Or they're going to lock me up. 115 00:07:37,910 --> 00:07:41,610 Well, you're not going to believe this one, guys and gals. 116 00:07:42,490 --> 00:07:44,510 Jesse brings the case to his team. 117 00:07:45,650 --> 00:07:47,070 Investigator June Sarpong. 118 00:07:48,210 --> 00:07:49,730 Advisor Braverman. 119 00:07:50,730 --> 00:07:53,310 Sean Stone, Senate Director Oliver Stone. 120 00:07:54,340 --> 00:07:56,500 And Jesse's son, Tyrell. 121 00:07:56,940 --> 00:08:01,820 I got an informant that tells me that time travel is real. 122 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:07,640 Time travel. Time travel is real, that it's one of the most secret things the 123 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:12,060 government's ever done, that they've been at it for 40 years now, and they've 124 00:08:12,060 --> 00:08:13,380 been successful with it. 125 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:16,970 Okay, wait a minute. So you're trying to tell me that the government's sending 126 00:08:16,970 --> 00:08:21,290 people back and forward through time. Yes, the conspiracy is they've been 127 00:08:21,290 --> 00:08:25,070 it, and we don't know about it, and it's an ultra -secret program. 128 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:28,490 It's the ultimate weapon that any government can hold. 129 00:08:29,740 --> 00:08:33,780 This is ludicrous. Well, Governor, I looked into what you told me to 130 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:38,440 and, you know, there is something to this stuff. The CERN reactor, which is 131 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,900 huge atom smasher in Switzerland, tons of countries have invested billions into 132 00:08:43,900 --> 00:08:48,420 this machine, and a lot of scientists are worried that it could affect the 133 00:08:48,420 --> 00:08:49,420 -space continuum. 134 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,900 Yeah, that CERN reactor moves subatomic particles faster than the speed of 135 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:56,700 light. Now we know that we can go. 136 00:08:57,100 --> 00:09:01,340 Forward in time. If we go closer to the speed of light, you would travel with, 137 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,320 say, you know, X amount of years. You would come back here, we'd all be dead, 138 00:09:04,340 --> 00:09:05,340 and you'd still be young. 139 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,120 Right. Then wait for this. 140 00:09:08,300 --> 00:09:13,680 The Chinese government has banned all mention of time travel on television. 141 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,320 Why? So they don't like Back to the Future movies. 142 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,480 Oh, no, governments don't do it for that reason, Ty. 143 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,020 Governments do it with an ulterior motive. 144 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,200 But the whole question is, what does the government know that we don't? 145 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,400 We've looked at crazy things before. 146 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,240 Okay, 147 00:09:31,020 --> 00:09:36,580 okay, but credibility goes the other way, too. If we investigate and expose 148 00:09:36,580 --> 00:09:40,020 as a fraud, that also gives us credibility. 149 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:45,140 This guy Weber says there's a whistleblower out there. Let's get out 150 00:09:45,140 --> 00:09:46,140 find him. 151 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,500 The team sets off in search of that time traveler. 152 00:09:53,220 --> 00:09:55,240 And some evidence that time travel... 153 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,440 is even possible. 154 00:09:58,140 --> 00:10:04,020 Tyrell and Sean meet up with Dr. Franklin Rule, a nuclear physicist who 155 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:06,460 happens to be a time travel expert. 156 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,920 There is at least a 70 -year, perhaps an 80 -year paper trail of evidence 157 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,580 suggesting our government has been engaged in time travel experimentation. 158 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,220 The U .S. government and time travel? 159 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,160 Dr. Rule says it goes back to the 1930s. 160 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:28,780 the University of Chicago, and Princeton, where researchers included 161 00:10:28,780 --> 00:10:29,780 Einstein. 162 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,840 Then in 1943, we had the Philadelphia Experiment. 163 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:40,300 The Philadelphia Experiment, a top -secret attempt to make the Navy ship 164 00:10:40,300 --> 00:10:41,400 Eldridge invisible. 165 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:48,320 Allegedly, the ship did disappear, but it was also transported through time 166 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,920 the Philadelphia shipyard to Norfolk, Virginia. 167 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,900 There are about 33 men aboard the craft. 168 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,880 When the experiment ended, they found that some men apparently had 169 00:10:59,340 --> 00:11:02,380 I've heard rumors of this for a long time, but where's the proof? 170 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,960 That is a good question because, of course, this is very controversial. 171 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,140 But fast forward to 1953. 172 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:13,680 Morris Jessup, who was a serious researcher, did some serious research, 173 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:17,640 believed that, indeed, the Philadelphia experiment engaged in time travel. 174 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,900 Unfortunately, he himself committed suicide. 175 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,700 Coming up on Conspiracy Theory. 176 00:11:28,060 --> 00:11:32,200 It was like a lounge chair in an isolation booth. 177 00:11:32,580 --> 00:11:35,320 The man who says he ran a government time machine. 178 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,940 They'd lay Stark naked on it. 179 00:11:38,420 --> 00:11:41,580 Then. All bets are off when you talk about time travel technology. 180 00:11:42,260 --> 00:11:45,340 The team gets closer to the mysterious time traveler. 181 00:11:45,740 --> 00:11:46,940 I've got his name. 182 00:11:47,709 --> 00:11:48,709 And later. 183 00:11:48,870 --> 00:11:51,110 Maybe we should find someone who can actually operate this thing. 184 00:11:52,690 --> 00:11:53,690 Hello, gentlemen. 185 00:11:53,710 --> 00:11:55,870 I'm here to time travel. Are you ready for that? 186 00:11:56,210 --> 00:11:57,990 Jesse puts a time machine to the test. 187 00:11:58,770 --> 00:12:00,790 I'll tell you what. This thing is dangerous. 188 00:12:01,310 --> 00:12:04,230 Into the time tunnel when Conspiracy Theory continues. 189 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,020 Jesse Ventura and his team are investigating a time travel conspiracy. 190 00:12:21,860 --> 00:12:25,920 Charges that our government is traveling to the past and future to change 191 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,340 history and control our destiny. 192 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,420 Physicist Dr. Franklin Rule is telling Tyrell and Sean about the Philadelphia 193 00:12:34,420 --> 00:12:40,580 experiment. A U .S. Navy ship reportedly traveled through time in the 1940s. 194 00:12:40,740 --> 00:12:44,680 Scientific investigator Morris Jessup exposed the project. 195 00:12:45,820 --> 00:12:46,820 He turned up dead. 196 00:12:47,460 --> 00:12:49,920 He admitted suicide in 1959. 197 00:12:50,340 --> 00:12:53,380 I heard that was one of those situations where they weren't sure if he had 198 00:12:53,380 --> 00:12:54,540 killed himself. 199 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:59,020 That absolutely wasn't suicide, or perhaps some governmental agent killed 200 00:12:59,020 --> 00:13:01,740 because he was getting too close to the truth and might have revealed it. 201 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,440 So tell me about this Montauk Project. 202 00:13:05,860 --> 00:13:09,580 The Montauk Project apparently grew out of the Philadelphia Experiment. 203 00:13:10,380 --> 00:13:11,700 The Montauk Project. 204 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,680 More secret time travel experiments. 205 00:13:15,740 --> 00:13:20,620 Work allegedly went on for years at Camp Hero, a military base at the end of 206 00:13:20,620 --> 00:13:21,620 Long Island, New York. 207 00:13:23,580 --> 00:13:25,480 Today, the site's abandoned. 208 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,900 But at least one scientist who claims he worked on the project is alive and 209 00:13:30,900 --> 00:13:31,900 talking. 210 00:13:32,380 --> 00:13:35,160 June Starponk tracks down Preston Nichols. 211 00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:39,580 Mr. Preston, tell me, what was the Montauk Project? 212 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:45,180 Well, the Montauk Project was a study attempting to use... 213 00:13:46,270 --> 00:13:50,410 Electromagnetics to put thought in the people's head and then transmitted out 214 00:13:50,410 --> 00:13:55,970 the old radar transmitter as huge amounts of power And what was the time 215 00:13:55,970 --> 00:13:58,290 element of this so one point? 216 00:13:58,870 --> 00:14:04,210 The equipment got powerful enough where it was literally precipitating time 217 00:14:04,210 --> 00:14:11,150 travel Me know dr. Ruhle has an incredible lead here in the 218 00:14:11,150 --> 00:14:16,150 present well, there's a man who is claimed that Time travelers from the 219 00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:18,550 gave him a time travel device. 220 00:14:19,710 --> 00:14:24,370 And then he's enhanced it so it's a hyperdimensional resonator, which he's 221 00:14:24,370 --> 00:14:25,370 selling. 222 00:14:25,630 --> 00:14:28,890 Okay, so he's selling something that time travels people. 223 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:33,310 Inventor Stephen Gibbs has been a mysterious figure on the conspiracy 224 00:14:33,310 --> 00:14:34,310 decades. 225 00:14:34,970 --> 00:14:37,550 Yes, he really is selling a time travel device. 226 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:40,090 Compact and ready to use. 227 00:14:40,570 --> 00:14:44,290 The idea is that putting it where you may have this energy vortex, that would 228 00:14:44,290 --> 00:14:48,990 enhance its ability to carry out its job of teleporting you through time. 229 00:14:49,670 --> 00:14:54,250 Energy vortexes, swirly centers of concentrated electromagnetic energy. 230 00:14:54,670 --> 00:14:57,130 They're scattered and mapped around the globe. 231 00:14:58,410 --> 00:15:02,490 Theoretically, with the right equipment, they can rotate faster than the speed 232 00:15:02,490 --> 00:15:04,990 of light and open a hole in time. 233 00:15:05,290 --> 00:15:07,230 In fact, he's selling it on the Internet. 234 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,520 So you guys might want to purchase... Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait. A guy 235 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,720 selling a time travel device on the Internet. 236 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,340 Back in New York, Preston Nichols is explaining the Montauk Project time 237 00:15:18,340 --> 00:15:21,680 machine, a device known as the Montauk Chair. 238 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:28,700 The Montauk Chair was this lounge chair that the chair guys, and they were 239 00:15:28,700 --> 00:15:32,540 always guys, would lay on. They'd lay stark naked on it. 240 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:38,980 It had physiological sensors, the array of antennas around the lounge chair that 241 00:15:38,980 --> 00:15:43,740 was literally picking up the electromagnetic radiation out of the 242 00:15:43,740 --> 00:15:48,100 system. And there the computer would decode the thoughts. 243 00:15:48,740 --> 00:15:55,300 And then if the person in the chair had the capability of time travel, this 244 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:57,420 machine would bring it to full reality. 245 00:16:00,670 --> 00:16:02,790 John zooms off to meet one of his contacts. 246 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:05,950 Anya is a psychic. 247 00:16:06,270 --> 00:16:09,910 She says she studied time travel with Montauk Project Survivor. 248 00:16:11,070 --> 00:16:12,070 It's real. 249 00:16:12,570 --> 00:16:14,550 That's the first thing you need to know about it. 250 00:16:14,910 --> 00:16:17,830 The second thing you need to know, it's extremely dangerous. 251 00:16:18,930 --> 00:16:23,330 And the third thing is that it goes far, far deeper than you could possibly 252 00:16:23,330 --> 00:16:24,330 imagine. 253 00:16:25,970 --> 00:16:28,730 All bets are off when you talk about time travel technology. 254 00:16:30,060 --> 00:16:33,940 you have to leave A plus B equals B logic at the door. 255 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,480 So who specifically was tested on? 256 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:46,200 Well, typically, they would go pick up people off the street and shove them 257 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,440 through the open vortex. 258 00:16:47,940 --> 00:16:49,300 Did anybody die? 259 00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:51,700 A lot of people died. 260 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,380 Were these people ever documented? 261 00:16:56,740 --> 00:16:57,740 No. 262 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,340 Are there pictures to document this time? 263 00:17:00,980 --> 00:17:02,080 Virtually nothing. 264 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,480 Preston Nichols does not have photographic evidence. 265 00:17:07,619 --> 00:17:13,140 He's not the time traveler the team is looking for. But he says he knows who 266 00:17:14,260 --> 00:17:18,060 Governor, Weber might not be as far out as he sounded. 267 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,940 There is a whistleblower. 268 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,200 I've got his name. 269 00:17:21,579 --> 00:17:22,579 Bishago. 270 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,160 Bishago. 271 00:17:25,260 --> 00:17:27,540 The hunt for the time traveler shifts. 272 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:28,900 into a new gear. 273 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,340 But there's an unexpected twist. 274 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,420 Tyrell has gotten hold of that time machine. 275 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,780 Now, he'll try to get Jesse to test it. 276 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,880 Still ahead. 277 00:17:46,660 --> 00:17:49,300 This is Mr. Gibbs' time machine. 278 00:17:49,780 --> 00:17:51,840 Jesse's chance to travel through time. 279 00:17:52,060 --> 00:17:53,060 How is it dangerous? 280 00:17:53,220 --> 00:17:54,220 What does that thing do? 281 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,260 Then. A crucial clue. 282 00:17:57,580 --> 00:17:59,020 How very astute of you. 283 00:17:59,220 --> 00:18:01,120 From the man in the white van. 284 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,860 I've done a lot of research on him. 285 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:08,380 And later. So what you're saying is the first time you lived here was 1973? 286 00:18:08,860 --> 00:18:11,440 Jesse faces down the mysterious time traveler. 287 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,580 The second time was 1972? 288 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,100 At the time tunnel vortex. 289 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,220 I am that time traveler. 290 00:18:30,510 --> 00:18:35,190 Well, Jeff, what's crazy is I actually found a guy, Mr. Gibbs, who claims to 291 00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:36,710 have made a time machine. 292 00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:42,650 It's something Jesse Ventura never imagined. He and his team are 293 00:18:42,650 --> 00:18:48,810 conspiracy to use time travel to influence world events and control our 294 00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:52,530 Stranger still, he's talking about using a time machine. 295 00:18:52,770 --> 00:18:56,750 Yes, and this is Mr. Gibbs' time machine. 296 00:18:57,780 --> 00:19:01,720 This small device was sold by reclusive inventor Stephen Gibbs. 297 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,920 It's said to have the power to send people into the past and into the 298 00:19:07,580 --> 00:19:12,620 I mean, the radar detector in my Porsche is more expensive looking than this. 299 00:19:12,660 --> 00:19:16,100 Well, it's a hyper -dimensional resonator, which sends you into 300 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:17,800 dimensions, different time zones. 301 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,460 This little thing can do all that? Apparently so. 302 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,280 Maybe we should take it back to Dr. 303 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,600 Rule. He said we should take it to a vortex to use it, right? 304 00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:30,170 Hell, man, I say we do it right now. I say we strap it to Sean and see if we 305 00:19:30,170 --> 00:19:32,550 change it through time there, buddy. You up for that, Sean? 306 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:39,770 While Jesse tries to make sense of the time travel device, June is chasing down 307 00:19:39,770 --> 00:19:42,450 Bishago, the only known time traveler. 308 00:19:43,790 --> 00:19:46,950 She's reached out to her contact in the conspiracy underworld. 309 00:19:47,450 --> 00:19:51,610 Corsa? A Black Ops veteran, the man in the white van. 310 00:19:53,390 --> 00:19:54,810 I need some information. 311 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,520 What about, my dear? 312 00:19:57,060 --> 00:20:00,720 I've been given a name, a whistleblower. What's the name? 313 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Bishago. Andrew Bishago? 314 00:20:03,980 --> 00:20:05,160 You've heard of him? 315 00:20:05,540 --> 00:20:07,180 How very astute of you. 316 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,440 I've done a lot of research on him. 317 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,440 His involvement has advanced U .S. time research as a child. 318 00:20:14,660 --> 00:20:19,940 Project Pegasus was part of a time travel project that started in the 60s. 319 00:20:20,540 --> 00:20:25,640 Project Pegasus, a top -secret program run by DARPA, the Defense Department's 320 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,020 classified research wing. 321 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,640 DARPA is known for experimenting with concepts like hyperspeed and 322 00:20:33,460 --> 00:20:35,740 Time travel is right in its wheelhouse. 323 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,300 Can you get me to him? 324 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:39,600 Yes, I can. 325 00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:50,610 That night, Tyrell, Sean, and I arrive in Las Vegas to test out that time 326 00:20:50,610 --> 00:20:53,470 machine. We check into that pyramid hotel. 327 00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:59,230 They say it's on top of a natural vortex, a powerful pool of 328 00:20:59,230 --> 00:21:05,730 energy. That, the pyramid power, is supposed to kickstart the time machine? 329 00:21:06,530 --> 00:21:10,170 At least according to the expert who will run it for us. 330 00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:12,770 It's a lizard guy. Stuart Swerdlow. 331 00:21:13,130 --> 00:21:14,190 Apparently going to... 332 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,740 Take us all back in time. 333 00:21:15,940 --> 00:21:17,240 With that little box? 334 00:21:17,980 --> 00:21:19,060 Is it plugged in? 335 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,700 I don't know. We'll see how this thing operates. Hello, gentlemen. 336 00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:25,200 Hello. I hear that time travel. Are you ready for that? 337 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,000 Stuart Swerdlow is another veteran of the Montauk Project. 338 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,300 He said he was recruited as a teenager and went through all kinds of time 339 00:21:35,300 --> 00:21:36,300 experiments. 340 00:21:36,830 --> 00:21:38,490 You can take us back in time. 341 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:42,130 Yeah, what is this thing over here? This is something that we found called the 342 00:21:42,130 --> 00:21:45,290 hyperdimensional resonator by Stephen L. Gibbs. 343 00:21:45,630 --> 00:21:48,890 Well, I'll tell you what, this thing is dangerous and I wouldn't use it. 344 00:21:49,410 --> 00:21:53,190 I came all the way here so this guy can chicken out? 345 00:21:53,450 --> 00:21:57,570 He's going to time travel all right, right on to Las Vegas Boulevard. 346 00:21:57,830 --> 00:22:00,150 How is it dangerous? What does that thing do? 347 00:22:00,390 --> 00:22:04,970 This is a modified radionics machine. This modified version. 348 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,140 generate the powerful electromagnetic field that could damage and enter into 349 00:22:10,140 --> 00:22:13,520 your personal energy field. Really? It could damage your chakra system, your 350 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,100 internal organs. It could change the energy in this room. It's not a very 351 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:18,100 idea. 352 00:22:18,220 --> 00:22:22,020 Right. Wouldn't want to hurt the old chakra now, would we? 353 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,100 So we're not going to use this machine because it's dangerous. 354 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:26,660 I would say it's very dangerous. 355 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,820 I came here to see some time travel. So Swerdlow says he'll do it his way. 356 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,940 I was in Montauk Project for 13 years, and in those 13 years, we learned all of 357 00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:39,940 these techniques. 358 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:41,760 I'll only go to the moon or to the future? 359 00:22:42,020 --> 00:22:44,020 Well, you're going to go in the past. Oh, boy. 360 00:22:44,420 --> 00:22:48,100 And in fact, I think it might be a good idea for all of you to see where you 361 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:49,100 originally came from. 362 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,520 Coming up, the team prepares for a wild ride. 363 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,440 I want to see where someone leaves somewhere and shows up somewhere else. 364 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,600 Through time. 365 00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:04,439 Is he ready? 366 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,440 Okay. 367 00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:10,100 Then, the time traveler names a fellow chrononaut. 368 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:12,000 Yes, I met Barack Obama. 369 00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:14,000 But can he convince Jesse? 370 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,360 This is the photo that that is you at Gettysburg? 371 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,560 Correct. 372 00:23:25,230 --> 00:23:29,270 Jesse Ventura is investigating a conspiracy that could change the course 373 00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:33,150 history. And now he's facing the greatest danger yet. 374 00:23:34,530 --> 00:23:40,970 He's in a hotel room in Las Vegas with Tyrell, Sean, and a man who claims he 375 00:23:40,970 --> 00:23:43,990 send them hurtling through time. 376 00:23:44,350 --> 00:23:45,390 Okay, are you ready? 377 00:23:46,290 --> 00:23:51,110 Stuart Swerdlow is a veteran of the Montauk Project, a top -secret 378 00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:52,130 time travel program. 379 00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:57,120 He's already refused to operate a time travel device the team brought along. 380 00:23:57,420 --> 00:24:01,620 This thing is dangerous and I wouldn't use it. This, it damaged the chakra 381 00:24:01,620 --> 00:24:02,920 system, your internal organs. 382 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:07,180 But Swerdlow claims to have his own technique, government tested. 383 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,980 So in this particular time travel experiment, I'm going to teach you to 384 00:24:11,980 --> 00:24:17,420 go back down through the DNA to the very beginning where it was formed. And then 385 00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:18,420 you can see what you were. 386 00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:21,370 Mentally, that's not time travel. 387 00:24:21,610 --> 00:24:22,850 That's daydreaming. 388 00:24:23,210 --> 00:24:25,490 What's the difference between what you're doing and hypnotism? 389 00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:30,110 Well, hypnotism is when somebody else is controlling your mind. Okay. 390 00:24:30,330 --> 00:24:33,890 This is teaching you how to direct your own mind where you want to go. 391 00:24:34,110 --> 00:24:35,830 Might as well humor the guy. 392 00:24:36,190 --> 00:24:37,190 For now. 393 00:24:39,410 --> 00:24:40,309 So you ready? 394 00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:43,930 Okay. So your feet are flat on the floor, hands at the side of your lap. 395 00:24:44,170 --> 00:24:47,090 Swerdlow's telling Tyrell and Sean to visualize. 396 00:24:48,110 --> 00:24:51,690 visualize a blue circle, a green spiral staircase. 397 00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:55,210 Come on. I want to see somebody disappear. 398 00:24:57,330 --> 00:24:58,790 So does Tyrell. 399 00:24:59,090 --> 00:25:03,130 How can we physically time travel? Well, that's it. 400 00:25:03,690 --> 00:25:07,050 And here's the thing. Time and space is an illusion of physical reality. 401 00:25:07,250 --> 00:25:08,270 It really doesn't exist. 402 00:25:08,810 --> 00:25:10,550 Yeah, but none of this rings true for me. 403 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,520 None of this rings true for me. But that's your personal choice. 404 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,840 It's not my personal choice. 405 00:25:15,260 --> 00:25:18,740 I have yet to see any real evidence of anything beyond people. 406 00:25:18,940 --> 00:25:22,480 No offense, but beyond people's own viewpoints or anything that they've seen 407 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,199 they've described. 408 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,440 You know, but I'm just a little kind of frustrated because I've wasted all this 409 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,180 time and all this energy. And yet you didn't complete it properly. 410 00:25:30,780 --> 00:25:32,520 It's simply a question of where you're focused. 411 00:25:33,380 --> 00:25:35,620 Well, my focus is on walking out of the room. 412 00:25:37,220 --> 00:25:39,340 Huh. I didn't expect that. 413 00:25:40,030 --> 00:25:44,490 We push Swerdlow to show us physical time travel, but he can't. 414 00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:49,430 Well, this is not, it's not cast in stone. 415 00:25:49,930 --> 00:25:54,110 If it's mental, I guess you can travel mentally any way you want. But, you 416 00:25:54,130 --> 00:25:57,710 I'm looking at something more physical. I want to see where someone leaves 417 00:25:57,710 --> 00:25:59,550 somewhere and shows up somewhere else. 418 00:26:00,330 --> 00:26:03,550 That might be hard. For me to believe in. I'm hardcore. 419 00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:06,710 You can cut the tension with a knife. 420 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,220 But just when the investigation seems to have stalled, Jesse gets a call from 421 00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:16,220 June. 422 00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:19,280 Governor, I found him. I found Bishaga. 423 00:26:21,540 --> 00:26:26,120 Jesse sends Tyrell and Sean to meet the world's only self -proclaimed physical 424 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:27,120 time traveler. 425 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,260 He's hiding out in a no -tell motel. 426 00:26:31,780 --> 00:26:34,760 A knock on the door, and there he is. 427 00:26:35,980 --> 00:26:37,740 Meet Andrew Bishaga. 428 00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:42,270 This is a guy who's about to blow open the government's deep secret. 429 00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:48,130 The attempt to change the course of history by sending people like him 430 00:26:48,130 --> 00:26:49,130 time. 431 00:26:50,650 --> 00:26:52,330 Give me a little of your background. Who are you? 432 00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:57,670 Well, I'm a lawyer from Washington State in the late 1960s and early 1970s. 433 00:26:58,110 --> 00:27:02,290 I was one of the 140 American schoolchildren who were attached to 434 00:27:02,290 --> 00:27:04,530 Project Pegasus. American schoolchildren? 435 00:27:04,750 --> 00:27:09,010 At that time, the U .S. government was working with children roughly age 7 to 436 00:27:09,010 --> 00:27:13,810 11. They had developed a technology that essentially opened up mortal tunnels in 437 00:27:13,810 --> 00:27:18,410 the fabric of time -space, and they technically needed small, cooperative, 438 00:27:18,550 --> 00:27:19,790 intelligent human beings. 439 00:27:20,150 --> 00:27:24,570 When we were jumping through that field of radiant energy, we found that we had 440 00:27:24,570 --> 00:27:28,480 punched open essentially... a tunnel in the fabric of time -space. 441 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,320 We would travel for, let's say, five or ten seconds, and then when the tunnel 442 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,100 closed, we would find ourselves elsewhere. 443 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,920 Bishago claims he was recruited by his father, a DARPA engineer. 444 00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:45,680 He and the other kids would jump through time from a facility in Woodbridge, New 445 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,780 Jersey, then land on the grounds of the Baton Memorial in Santa Fe, New Mexico. 446 00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:55,680 which is a distance of 2 ,005 miles in several seconds. 447 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,280 From Santa Fe, Bishago says his father took him to the Sandia National 448 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,900 Laboratories, where he jumped into the future and passed. 449 00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:10,320 One of the places they sent us was to the Revolutionary War period. 450 00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:15,080 And, in at least one case, influenced history. 451 00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:20,040 We were literally in George Washington's encampment to advise him to retreat 452 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,040 from New York Harbor. 453 00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:26,040 The generals from today were sending you guys back? Let him finish. What 454 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,740 happened? Well, they weren't the generals. They were just the defense 455 00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:33,960 people and CIA people aligned with Project Pegasus. How did you get access 456 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,460 General Washington at the time? Well, when they turned the device on, we 457 00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:41,200 into view literally in his encampment. He was sitting there, a very august 458 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,820 gentleman. And I remember he was kind of looking at us with some mirth. He kind 459 00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:48,280 of said, well, what am I to presume you are, lads? Angels? 460 00:28:48,910 --> 00:28:52,550 We explained that we were time travelers from the future. We informed him what 461 00:28:52,550 --> 00:28:55,390 we were instructed to tell him, which was that he was going to win the 462 00:28:55,390 --> 00:29:00,310 Revolutionary War, become the first president of the United States, be 463 00:29:00,310 --> 00:29:04,410 essentially the father of his country, but that all of those things depended 464 00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:08,910 upon him taking our advice to retreat and move his 2 ,000 or more troops from 465 00:29:08,910 --> 00:29:12,070 New York Harbor, which they did in the middle of the night there. 466 00:29:13,010 --> 00:29:16,730 And your father and family were totally cool with sending their... 467 00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:19,650 Eight -year -old child through time and space. 468 00:29:20,210 --> 00:29:23,210 Well, my father certainly was because he was one of the project principals. 469 00:29:23,570 --> 00:29:24,690 The other principals? 470 00:29:25,650 --> 00:29:29,550 Bishago names names, including a future defense secretary. 471 00:29:30,050 --> 00:29:35,790 Don Rumsfeld was the defense attache to Project Pegasus, and he told us that the 472 00:29:35,790 --> 00:29:40,370 purpose of teleportation was primarily military. It was going to enable us to 473 00:29:40,370 --> 00:29:42,830 put troops precisely where they were needed on the battlefield. 474 00:29:43,810 --> 00:29:45,670 And there's one more name he offers. 475 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:52,440 almost in passing, a fellow child time traveler, and future president. 476 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,900 Barack Obama was one of the 140 schoolchildren involved in Project 477 00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:00,800 Yes, I met Barack Obama. 478 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,440 Did you know Obama would become president? 479 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,680 He was clearly identified as a future American president. 480 00:30:06,020 --> 00:30:08,980 Actually, one of the things that was going on is the project was briefing 481 00:30:08,980 --> 00:30:13,080 presidents. So I met President George H .W. Bush and his son George W. Bush. 482 00:30:13,580 --> 00:30:17,460 and Bill Clinton in Albuquerque during those years shortly after they were 483 00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:21,740 informed that their personal destinies involved becoming President of the 484 00:30:21,740 --> 00:30:26,500 States. And then, Andrew Bishago produces the evidence the team's been 485 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:28,200 for. Do you have a photograph? 486 00:30:28,540 --> 00:30:32,900 Yes, I do have proof of my presence at a past location, and that was the 487 00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:35,360 photograph that was taken of me. I have it in my briefcase. 488 00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:37,540 Sean, can you pass me my briefcase? 489 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,080 Still ahead... 490 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,440 The time traveler. You're talking Star Trek here to me. 491 00:30:44,820 --> 00:30:46,120 Tries to convince Jesse. 492 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,220 Actually, I'm talking the opposite of Star Trek. 493 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,060 And later, that Gettysburg photo. 494 00:30:51,420 --> 00:30:54,180 It's the first photograph to show a time traveler from the future. 495 00:30:54,460 --> 00:30:55,460 Judge for yourself. 496 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,220 You do look kind of out of place. 497 00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:08,820 Jesse Ventura's team has tracked down the time traveling informant. 498 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,680 Andrew Bershago says the government is sending people through time to influence 499 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,680 world events. 500 00:31:16,340 --> 00:31:19,140 Now, he has the evidence. A photo. 501 00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:24,600 A 150 -year -old photo taken at a major historical event. 502 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,240 I'm right here. I'm this boy standing in a foreground in a photograph. 503 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,700 That's you with the Guttysburg Address. 504 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,480 Now, it's a matter of convincing Jesse. 505 00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:44,080 I really feel that you need to meet this guy, Andy Bishago. 506 00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:48,880 I mean, this guy shows you a picture, some old photo, and says that's him? 507 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,820 Bishago said that he would take us to Santa Fe, New Mexico, and take us to 508 00:31:52,820 --> 00:31:56,580 Sandia Laboratories, which is on Curlin Air Force Base. And that's where he said 509 00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:59,080 all this? That's where he said all this. Is his father dead? 510 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,220 I believe he is, yeah. Okay, because I would love to talk to his old man and 511 00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:05,220 his old man, how could you do this to your kid? 512 00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:10,220 Next stop is Albuquerque. There he is. 513 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,480 Andy. Oh, that's him. 514 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,680 There he is. 515 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,560 Come with the governor. 516 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:18,800 Andy Bishago. 517 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,799 Hi, Mr. 518 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,660 Bishago. I guess you're going to teach me about time travel, huh? Yes, I've 519 00:32:23,660 --> 00:32:26,840 it, Governor. Okay. Well, you've got to convince me. I'm a bit of a skeptic. 520 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:34,040 Now it's on to the time travel jump site, the Sandia National Labs on 521 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,040 Air Force Base. 522 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,460 So Andy, this is the base right around here where all this took place. 523 00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:43,820 Some of the most important activities that Project Pegasus undertook were 524 00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:46,940 located at the Sandia National Labs. What have we used it for? 525 00:32:47,140 --> 00:32:50,880 There was a decision made in the context of Project Pegasus that we would 526 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,120 primarily use time travel technology to get information about the past and 527 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,200 future, to engage in better contingency planning. 528 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,040 That's hard for me to grasp. 529 00:33:01,130 --> 00:33:04,970 I mean, a lot of this has changed, but essentially Sandia was the teleport in 530 00:33:04,970 --> 00:33:05,629 New Mexico. 531 00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:10,630 I mean, I was driven up here probably 40 times. When you say teleport, talk to 532 00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:12,350 me like I'm the six -year -old. Okay. 533 00:33:12,650 --> 00:33:19,070 There was a device that consisted of two gray -colored elliptical booms that 534 00:33:19,070 --> 00:33:22,510 were about eight feet tall, placed about ten feet apart on the floor. 535 00:33:22,930 --> 00:33:28,330 Between those two booms would radiate a shimmering field of energy. 536 00:33:28,990 --> 00:33:34,110 and it had the capability to bend the fabric of time -space. So when we leapt 537 00:33:34,110 --> 00:33:38,310 through that field of energy, a vortal tunnel opened up in the fabric of time 538 00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:42,210 -space. You're talking Star Trek here to me. Actually, I'm talking the opposite 539 00:33:42,210 --> 00:33:46,370 of Star Trek. In Star Trek, you disintegrate the teleportee at the point 540 00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:48,910 embarkation and then reassemble them at the destination. 541 00:33:49,210 --> 00:33:52,650 We were jumping through literally a hole in the fabric of time -space. 542 00:33:53,370 --> 00:33:54,830 Let's go see where you came from. 543 00:33:55,930 --> 00:33:57,790 Bishagal leads the team around the base. 544 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,480 But his recollections are hazy. So does this gate look familiar? 545 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,940 I think this is another one of the side gates. Let's head down here and make a 546 00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:07,420 left and see if there's another gate. 547 00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:09,540 Let's just keep circling the base. 548 00:34:09,980 --> 00:34:13,520 Eventually we'll come out, hopefully, unless we're teleported, we shouldn't 549 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,820 out where we started. 550 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:19,219 Now if we end up in New Jersey, then I know we're in trouble. 551 00:34:19,659 --> 00:34:23,600 The U .S. defense technical community has spent trillions of dollars 552 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,679 secret technologies for the U .S. government itself. 553 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,920 And this was one of them. And all I'm doing is sharing my experiences of what 554 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,139 happened. It may sound crazy, but I'm telling the truth. 555 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,040 After an hour circling the base, Jesse's just about had enough. 556 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,219 Ty, why don't you pull over for a second? 557 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,440 Okay. 558 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,620 I'm just going to stretch my legs out. 559 00:34:42,940 --> 00:34:44,080 Clear my head a little. 560 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,659 I'm walking around with this guy. He's driving around. He's not playing with 561 00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:53,880 But I still think that something had to have happened to this guy for him to 562 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,460 come up with this because he is so knowledgeable. 563 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,480 Yeah, the things he talks about, he knows them. I mean, I know Sean's 564 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,760 this hard, but I don't know. That's why I want to keep moving. 565 00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:04,820 Well, yeah, I want to follow through. Let's go to Santa Fe. 566 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,540 The team pushes on the 60 miles to Santa Fe to the spot where Andrew Bresciago 567 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:15,460 says he was teleported, the Baton Memorial Tower. 568 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,340 The Baton Memorial Building is the stunning visual hallmark. 569 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,700 of all of santa fe so i had numerous experiences as one of the child 570 00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:29,080 suddenly popping into view right here right here right here right on these 571 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,420 where we're standing and an old man was on his morning walk and he was so 572 00:35:32,420 --> 00:35:36,600 startled to see a young child suddenly pop into view that his pipe popped out 573 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:43,140 his mouth jesse's not buying it children appearing from out of nowhere in the 574 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:48,870 middle of a public plaza no way Why wouldn't they just have you appear on a 575 00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:51,470 military installation where it could all be controlled? 576 00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:55,030 Well, we know that they didn't want to drop us into Los Alamos because of the 577 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:59,210 spy network that the former Soviet Union had inside the Los Alamos National 578 00:35:59,210 --> 00:36:04,710 Labs. How do you feel about someone who would say to you, Andy, this is all made 579 00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:09,970 up, this is a childhood fantasy that's come into your adult life and taken over 580 00:36:09,970 --> 00:36:10,970 your head? 581 00:36:11,530 --> 00:36:15,210 I would tell them that they're going to see that I've come up with the names, 582 00:36:15,250 --> 00:36:19,830 the dates, the places of my project experiences, and that those facts are 583 00:36:19,830 --> 00:36:24,690 too complex and too deeply internested and interrelating to each other to have 584 00:36:24,690 --> 00:36:26,090 been made up fraudulently. 585 00:36:26,890 --> 00:36:31,650 Jesse's ready to call it a draw, but at least one more shock is in store. 586 00:36:32,410 --> 00:36:33,990 So, Andy, where are we heading to next? 587 00:36:34,610 --> 00:36:39,090 We're going to the house in White Rock, New Mexico, where my father and I 588 00:36:39,090 --> 00:36:40,090 stayed. 589 00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:46,020 During two summers, the summer of 1973 and then the summer of 1972, in that 590 00:36:46,020 --> 00:36:47,020 order. 591 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:53,140 So wait a minute now. Right there. Andy, so what you're saying is the first time 592 00:36:53,140 --> 00:36:56,740 you lived here was 1973 and the second time was 1972? 593 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,680 Correct. 594 00:36:59,660 --> 00:37:02,940 Coming up, the time traveler goes home again. 595 00:37:03,260 --> 00:37:04,980 You were a child with a security clearance. 596 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,320 And Jesse gets to analyze that photo. Governor, I am that time traveler. 597 00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:12,740 The one that shows Bishago with Abraham Lincoln. 598 00:37:19,220 --> 00:37:24,040 Jesse Ventura is driving through New Mexico with a man who claims to be a 599 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,040 government time traveler. 600 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,640 Andrew Bishago has shown the team the time travel portal in Santa Fe. The 601 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,580 that we were in would close and we would suddenly pop into view. 602 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,880 Now, he's leading them to a house. 603 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,660 where he says he lived with his father between jumps through time. 604 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:44,260 More details to support his claims. 605 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,440 We're going to the house in White Rock, New Mexico, where my father and I stayed 606 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:56,140 during two summers, the summer of 1973 and then the summer of 1972, in that 607 00:37:56,140 --> 00:37:57,140 order. 608 00:37:58,020 --> 00:37:59,700 We wind up in White Rock. 609 00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:04,680 It's a neighborhood just down the road from Los Alamos National Laboratories. 610 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,420 That's where the government develops top -secret nuclear weapons. 611 00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:12,260 And according to Bishago, time machines. 612 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,360 Bishago leads us to a small house right off the main road. 613 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,000 During one of those summers, I was taking classes up at a lab underneath 614 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,020 Alamos Public High School. 615 00:38:22,540 --> 00:38:23,540 Can I help you? 616 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,060 Hello. Hello. 617 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,100 You have a former resident of your house. 618 00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:29,740 Jesse Ventura? 619 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,060 No, I'm not the resident, but I'm Jesse Ventura. Oh, I see. 620 00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:35,180 Well, 621 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:42,000 this gentleman used to live here in 1973 when it was actually 72. I 622 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:48,820 actually stayed 623 00:38:48,820 --> 00:38:50,460 in that bedroom on the left. 624 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,320 I was attached to the U .S. Times Space Program at the time of this emergence. 625 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,620 It was a project under DARPA called... 626 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:04,100 Project Pegasus, and we were working under the direction of Dr. Harold M. 627 00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:07,820 and he's the director of the Los Alamos National Lab. Okay, so this project you 628 00:39:07,820 --> 00:39:11,720 say was under Harold Agnew. Okay, so what project was it? We were involved in 629 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:13,420 time travel activity out here in New Mexico. 630 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,160 I was one of the children in the project who was being trained to become the 631 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,440 first cadre of American time -space explorers. How could you do that if you 632 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,440 didn't have a security clearance? 633 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,880 I did. You were a child with a security clearance. 634 00:39:27,069 --> 00:39:29,990 You seem like you're familiar with some of this stuff. I'm not familiar with the 635 00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:31,810 project. It's called Project Pegasus. 636 00:39:32,190 --> 00:39:37,170 Project Pegasus. I had some vague comment maybe years ago, Project 637 00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:39,690 I don't know what it is. Are you familiar with Harold Agnew? Is that what 638 00:39:39,690 --> 00:39:42,730 said? Yes, Harold Agnew was the director. And there is a bedroom and 639 00:39:42,730 --> 00:39:45,570 kitchen. Yes, this is a bedroom. In fact, I can give you the site plan to 640 00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:48,870 house just from memory here. Is the description of the interior accurate? 641 00:39:48,910 --> 00:39:52,050 this is a bedroom here. It's now an office. The kitchen is over there. 642 00:39:52,990 --> 00:39:55,190 According to your knowledge, I've never been inside your house, correct? 643 00:39:55,410 --> 00:39:56,850 No. Am I a stranger to you? 644 00:39:57,090 --> 00:40:00,750 Yes. Pretty damn interesting, though, isn't it? Oh, it's interesting. 645 00:40:00,990 --> 00:40:03,470 Well, that's the thing about Los Alamos. Everything is classified. 646 00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:07,350 It's like a little pie with a nice thick crust on the top, and everything is 647 00:40:07,350 --> 00:40:10,830 nice Mayberry -ish, and then underneath we have lots of things going on. 648 00:40:11,230 --> 00:40:13,270 So this woman knows the names. 649 00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:15,810 She's heard about Project Pegasus. 650 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,240 And he seems to believe it all. But what about the evidence I keep hearing 651 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:21,460 about? That photo. 652 00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:25,520 Now, Andy, this is the photo that that is you at Gettysburg? 653 00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:30,260 Correct. I walked into downtown Gettysburg after reaching Gettysburg in 654 00:40:30,260 --> 00:40:32,220 from East Hanover, New Jersey in 1972. 655 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,140 This is the photo everyone's been talking about. 656 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:41,600 It's been in the public domain for more than 50 years, way before Photoshop. 657 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,240 And it hasn't been retouched. 658 00:40:44,850 --> 00:40:47,350 Abraham Lincoln is in the crowd back there. 659 00:40:47,730 --> 00:40:50,890 Andrew Bissago said he's the kid in the center. 660 00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:56,170 This lad here, which is me, was wearing grossly oversized shoes for any year. I 661 00:40:56,170 --> 00:41:00,590 mean, they're large men's street shoes. I had lost my hat, both shoes, and a 662 00:41:00,590 --> 00:41:05,630 sock. So when I walked into town, a man came up and fitted me with the shoes. 663 00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:10,370 He'd got me a Union winter parka. How can you prove that? You can see the 664 00:41:10,370 --> 00:41:11,570 cylinder there in my right hand. 665 00:41:12,250 --> 00:41:17,890 which were instructions to the Secretary of the Navy, Gideon Wells, to assist me 666 00:41:17,890 --> 00:41:22,050 if I was sent to his office, in other words, if I was in trouble in the field. 667 00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:23,750 You can actually see that cylinder in my hand. 668 00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:26,310 Here's the comparison. 669 00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:32,810 Andrew Bishago and that kid at Gettysburg, the one who's a little 670 00:41:32,810 --> 00:41:34,150 fuller than the others. 671 00:41:34,890 --> 00:41:38,290 Photo analysts have taken my sixth -grade portrait. 672 00:41:39,020 --> 00:41:42,860 from fall of 1972, which would have been about six months after this photograph 673 00:41:42,860 --> 00:41:43,779 was taken. 674 00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:47,060 And there's a direct correlation between the shape of the head and the shoulders 675 00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:50,160 and so forth to this child here. That's me in 1863. 676 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:58,000 Well, I can only accept your word on it because as I look on it, I can't 677 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,100 identify that it's you, but you do look kind of out of place. 678 00:42:01,580 --> 00:42:05,680 And so this is not only the only photograph to show Lincoln at 679 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,820 But it's the first photograph to show a time traveler from the future. And 680 00:42:09,820 --> 00:42:11,600 Governor, I am that time traveler. 681 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,860 Do I believe Andrew Bishago really traveled back in time to Gettysburg? 682 00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:23,620 Do I believe he showed up in George Washington's tent? Come on. 683 00:42:23,820 --> 00:42:28,220 I'll tell you one thing, though. I think Andrew Bishago believes it. 684 00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:33,160 And from the evidence we uncovered, I think he was used as a guinea pig. 685 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,860 in some kind of government black ops program, whether it was time travel or 686 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:43,440 whether his memories were implanted. He's another victim of the covert 687 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:49,340 operations we pay for, even when it's used against us. Time travel? 688 00:42:49,620 --> 00:42:54,820 Yeah, we found out the government experimented with it. It's a conspiracy 689 00:42:54,820 --> 00:42:55,900 reaches back years. 690 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,800 And if they were successful, into the future, too. 691 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,600 I'm Jesse Ventura. 692 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,580 And this is conspiracy theory.